This post is about sexual asssault, and you are more worried about someone having a “potty mouth?” Take your sanctimonious morality policing and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. But attacking a church that had NOTHING to do with what this man did is unnerving ! We were deeply immersed in your end of the pool. You really could give yourself more credit and stand freely as you are, a strong woman who decided to manage her excess. Mesa, AZ. What, did all our accrued knowledge disappear the moment we walked/ran away from Christianity? Shiflett says in public what many of us have known for years: the IFB church movement tends to cover-up criminal behavior out of fear of damaging their “testimony.”  Here’s to hoping that the light that Shiflett turned on the IFB movement will lead to the exposure of other sexual predators who have been hiding in plain sight for years. As horrible as the situation is they really did everything that they legally could given he wasn’t actually convicted of a crime (yet). Still, I have to object to the false idea that being saved changes people essentially from sinners to something else. He took the job and did not worry, because this isn’t true! North Valley Baptist Church 6,100 views. Valley Baptist Church. Bruce Gerencser, 63, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 42 years. On this point, I stand with Pastor Shiflett. Sometimes, the truth gets to squirm through into the light. It’s the job of the victim to go and press charges or the church in which it was reported being Calvary. In feeling, in allowing myself to feel and to talk about that in my family history (child of preacher) I was finally free to say goodbye to church, to faith, to sin, to all the sick ideas of religious indoctrination. Don’t give in to terrible sadness just because you make a mistake in life or see yourself ‘failing’ at something. If you have a link for this, I would appreciate you posting it. Yeah, I know first hand how people are treated who dare to talk out of school or tell where the dead bodies are buried, By far, the worst people I’ve ever had to deal with on this blog are IFB zealots out to defend their pastor or church from exposure or criticism. I agree that churches shouldn’t cover up crimes like this and I’m glad we agree that the other pastor should have immediately gone to the police. As you do, I’d love to see the IFB church movement, along with Evangelicalism burn to the ground. Cameron Giovanelli, a leader in the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church, which has a pattern of abuse, said he did not sexually abuse a minor. He lost his job over it and was kicked out of the church. In your heart, you know why you reached out to dull the pain and it wasn’t because of some imaginary Devil anymore than it was an imaginary God who saved you. However, Scripture that refers to the church refers to a group of … Cameron's Reputation Score is 2.85. A bath every day, always use deodorant ? Bruce, your own testimony has condemned you. I know this blog has high traffic numbers, and leveraging this traffic to expose alleged sexual abuse seems, at least to me, to be something I can and must do. If they were to pronounce the man guilty on a world wide stream of something he hasn’t officially been convicted of, there would be the potential for a defamation suit from him. Had to be such a miserable life. Copyright © 2021 The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser – Powered by Flywheel. The church enabled this behavior by giving the man a second chance. To quote renowned Evangelical scientist Ken “Hambo” Ham, were you there? 1,336 views. The victim has filed charges with authorities. He’s likely never going to be given the “grace” that Giovanelli will be extended. And the general IFB verbiage about ministry, loyalty, and the appeal to authority and personal experience, were, at least to me, unnecessary. I’ve not seen anything that mentions this has been reported to authorities. Last year, Mr. Giovanelli’s moral character became more public than Jack Trieber could control and he had to terminate Mr. Giovanelli’s employment as President of Golden State Baptist College. I do give Shiflett props for speaking up. I suspect you are about to discover that your religious overlords are going to dump on you, to use Jesus himself to harm you. How do you know Christ was radical? https://www.marylandaccidentattorneyblog.com/2017/04/maryland-lengthens-statute-limitations-victims-childhood-sexual-abuse.html. North Valley Baptist Church is an old-fashioned church that is known for its revival spirit. That said, all that matters on this issue is that the victim finds healing and the perpetrator is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Jasmine, I had no idea that it was removed until you mentioned it. 3 comments. Please consider your ways and change your mind. “The Ministry” is the company. 651 views. Golden State Baptist College released the following statement: It has come to our attention that allegations of inappropriate conduct have been made against Cameron Giovanelli, a member of our staff. Giovanelli also served as the associate pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, and was reportedly supposed to be the president of North Florida Baptist College when it opens up in fall 2020. In 2017, the state legislature changed the statute of limitations to age 38. People who tell the truth deserve praise, as we here have praised the man willing to tell the truth from within the religious cage. There were no allegations of wrongdoing of any nature that involved the ministries of North Valley Baptist Church or Golden State Baptist College. It is very common in religion to do what you are doing and speaking as if Christians deserve a good name…. My fear is the the church will bury you now because you are not willing to be on the team. Let them sort out the legalities of the matter. Imagine how much better it might be for sexual abuse victims if their pastors not only listened to them but acted morally, ethically, decently, and responsibly on their behalf. I do give Shiflett credit for one thing: he was willing to publicly call out Cameron Giovanelli, Jack Trieber, and Golden State Baptist College. And PLEASE I beg you, do anything you can to help THE VICTIM of any abuse that you know about. Pray and Ask Him to Reveal Himself to You. as far as Giovanelli not being able to work with children again, i agree, he shouldnt be able to. She declined to comment to WJZ after the hearing but will have a chance to read a victim impact statement at Giovanelli’s official sentencing next month. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVLn59Ujg-o, Or, you can youtube Response by Pastor Stacey Shiflett to North Valley Baptist Church. Asking. Cameron Giovanelli was employed by North Valley Baptist Church pastored by Jack Trieber. “Churches” are businesses. As with Jack Schaap’s victim, IFB zealots will say the victim seduced Giovanelli; that she was a willing participant; that she is in it for the money. Shiflett is out, though he doesn’t yet seem to know it. Cameron Giovanelli, the president of Golden State Baptist College — an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) institution operated by Pastor Jack Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, stands accused of repeatedly sexually assaulting a church teenager when he was the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Maryland. The victim’s assault “may” fall under the new statute depending on when the alleged crime was committed. Abandoned Buildings Being Torn Down To Make Way For New Park In West Baltimore, Mass Vaccination Sites At Six Flags America, Baltimore Convention Center To Remain Operational Thursday, Baltimore To Provide Free Recycling Carts To All Eligible City Households. Third Stimulus Check: How Much Could Your Next Relief Payment Be? As the family sat in his office he promised that if the family did not press charges of rape against the staff member than the staff member would never come back. Regardless of the “law” on the matter, I agree with you that the church should have immediately reported the allegation to law enforcement. Way to go NVBC on another cover up! Sources. Well lo and behold the year the statue of limitations ran out on a sunday night this staff member was voted back into the church. The Baltimore Sun has an interesting article on the new law: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-op-1012-abuse-victims-redress-20171011-story.html. ... Easter Sunday Special at North Valley Baptist Church - Duration: 2:45. On July 4, Cameron Giovanelli put up a YouTube video (now deleted) denying Sarah Jackson’s accusations that he began a sexual relationship with her when she was 16 in her Maryland church. A 4th degree misdemeanor offense that carries a maximum 1 year prison sentence and $1,000 fine. I’m not , for many reasons, a fan of IFB beliefs and practices. Previous to Cameron's current city of Orange Park, FL, Cameron Giovanelli lived in Santa Clara CA, San Jose CA and Sunnyvale CA. What bothers me is that they did not immediately contact the police when they were informed of the allegations. ... 076: Defamation Lawsuit Filed Against Cameron Giovanelli, Sarah Giovanelli, and Immanuel Baptist Church Show Details 24min 52s. The church’s insurance company paid out a hefty settlement. ... Bro. I knew this man for years and I’m terribly ashamed of his actions because he was raised sooo much better! It is, like all others, built on the “Tree of Knowledge…” Jesus did not come to give knowledge, but life. It’s not a matter of consent, because the girl, according to such laws, couldn’t grant consent. According to the statement of facts read aloud in court, the former preacher of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk had a months-long sexual relationship with a 17-year-old student at the church’s school. That said, it should continue to trouble everyone that way too many pastors are either sexual predators/abusers or they go to great lengths to cover-up misconduct in their churches. Cameron Giovanelli was employed by North Valley Baptist Church pastored by Jack Trieber. Good job to pastor Shiflett. I appreciate you looking up the laws and seeing the legality of the issue at hand! “The Members” are the customers. The evidence is overwhelming that Evangelicalism has a huge problem with pastors, missionaries, deacons, and other church leaders committing sex crimes. With a few significant adjustments, I wish we had more people like him on our side. I know several that have done this and it irks me a little. Christians Say the Darnedest Things: Coach Dave Daubenmire Exposes His Racism For All to See, Trials and Adversity: It Doesn’t Always Happen to Someone Else. You may know how to read, but there is no discernment in what you read. Giovanelli was the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Maryland, between 2004 and 2014, the Sun reported. Giovanelli will serve 90 days in the Baltimore County Detention Center, five years probation in Florida, where he lives now — but will not have to register as a sex offender. But thats not the churches job to investigate in a criminal matter and its not their place to get “justice”. To be able to get up and continue to preach every week and keep it all together really makes me question if he really ever new Christ in the first place. What a disgrace. He will not do well because the Christians with good names will get him now. I don’t have a “potty mouth.” I just have a larger vocabulary than you. I admire you and I don’t believe for a second that magic Jesus had anything to do with your hard work to shift from chemical dependence to the drug of Christianity. I think they handled it as best they could under the circumstances you stated. Now, it seems, they have their own scandal. Not only NVBC, as I’m sure u know. I also don’t like the fact that the pastor used the word “consensual” in describing the relationship between Giovanelli and the victim. Pastor - North Valley Baptist Church 408-988-8881. Cameron giovanelli . Ya nobody wants to be associated with it so I understand the backlash but we have to understand that it is everywhere and we should do our best to expose it. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Cameron Giovanelli, the president of Golden State Baptist College — an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) institution operated by Pastor Jack Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, stands accused of repeatedly sexually assaulting a church teenager when he was the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Maryland. I say let the police handle it. I would suggest that the faith you refer to is really you, a character that is to be admired for standing alone against abusers. And the jerk will sin again and harm someone. All you know about Jesus is what little is said about him in the gospels and what preachers have been saying about him for the past 2,000 years. Giovanelli’s name has been scrubbed from Golden State’s website. God, the Holy Spirit, prayer, feeling convicted, getting saved — none of these things stop predators. The North Valley Baptist Church on De la Cruz Boulevard has been repeatedly fined for holding church services since late August. Former Pastor at Calvary Baptist Church, Cameron Giovanelli, Charged in Sexual Assault of Child; Former pastor of Baltimore-area church charged with child sex abuse; police say there may be other victims; Recent Comments. Most likely, this video was removed by Shiflett. Well, this is one of the cases. Does anyone know why Pastor Shiflett’s video was removed? https://brucegerencser.net/2015/01/does-the-bible-say-thou-shalt-not-judge/. Thank-you Jesus for the structure of faith that not only allows us to harm ourselves and others but is designed to do exactly that…. Giovanelli is still on staff at NVBC. He is the “Tree of life” that Adam rejected. Elderly Anne Arundel County Couple Vincent And Rosalie Howley Reported Missing, Maryland State Police Respond To More Than 100 Crashes, 750 Calls For Service During Winter Storm. I actually think Pastor Shifflet was unwise in the statement he made, even if it was true and it was how he felt, for that very reason. This action, in most states, is criminal. But I feel horrible and try to make it right and change things. Cameron Giovanelli, 42, ... Police said the abuse happened while he was a 29-year-old pastor at Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, where he served as pastor from 2003 through 2014. they don’t. Richard Donnelly, a bus driver at Valley Baptist Church in Mesa, Arizona, was arrested in July 2018 and charged with child molestation and sexual abuse. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink. I know she filed the charges, but I haven’t heard the outcome. Thank you for your perspective AND for taking the initiative to look into Maryland laws. By giving over responsibility to Christ, by being saved, you shift the foundation of your responsibility to, at best, an historical fugure represented by women-haters and bullies. I am sorry to know that you were so harmed that you fell into addiction and I admire that you share your view in a place like this, not exactly among those of like-mind! Your ability to seek assistance and to bring balance into your life deserves praise. Please keep our ministry, the Giovanelli family and all others involved in your prayers. With all of your “knowledge” and “experience”, you still left the one who loved and died for you. I have pulled my response video down. Every preacher across this land should follow his lead. And the Giovenell’s have suffered greatly because it. It’s the right thing to do. After the service, the mother of the pregnant girl wept hard and grabbed me and kept saying “He promised us” I asked her what she met and then she explained about the rape and the promise made to her. By viewing our video content, you are accepting the terms of our. She mentions the fact in a public post on her facebook page. Thank you. I mean the most accurate statement any of us could say is that he has been accused of sexual misconduct, and even in that statement the victim has not yet publicly stated details as to what depth the misconduct was. 5:53. Then the video was uploaded on Friday morning because the situation wad not handled right and the people were misinformed. Those accused of crimes are innocent until proven guilty. It served its purpose. Oxendine, Lankford Vice President of Academic and Student Affairs Faculty: Bible, Math, Science loxendine@gsbc.edu 408-988-8551 Ext. Instead, abuse victims are often told to shut-up or are blamed for what happened. DUNDALK, MD. The church is independent fundamental Baptist (IFB), part of a loosely affiliated network of deeply conservative evangelical churches in the U.S. ... Apr 20, 2020 | Christian Living, Ministry Helps. — before knowing what they are talking about? Also as far as what you said about IFB Christians, I’m sure there are very many that don’t act like Christians, but they are human just like the rest of us. After the guilty pleas, his attorney took him out of another exit. I just don’t understand how someone can get up at the pulpit every single week and preach the truth and be living a complete and total lie. That’s fine if you don’t want to give them a pass but all I’m saying is seeing as the incident didn’t occur there and was in another state, they did all that they legally were allowed to do. Brian “knew” Christianity for many, many years, as did I. I think rational people can look at the evidence and come to a sound conclusion. Ok first of our Pastor Shiflett is not out to whoever said that And I commend the man for speaking out the way he did and as far our church burying him has more love and support then ever before! The former pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Cameron Giovanelli, has been arrested on charges he sexually abused a child 12 years ago. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. obviously one of them is lying. Funny how, again like ‘he wasn’t a true x-tian’ believers say they ‘pray for healing for the abuser, his family and -oh yes – I nearly forgot, the victim too.’ Ask any abuse survivor, however spiritual and ‘close to god’ they were before the abuse and they will say they have never got over it, it’s affected or ruined their lives for many decades. Kansas pastor’s wife goes missing on drive to Alabama By John Young, in News, August 7, 2020. The bad news is that many of them have been conditioned to stay silent; to obey their pastors; to not question leadership. Sad….Sad for this mans poor wife and children and of course the victims. This is perhaps the best way to make churches accountable for what takes place on their watch. People today are so willing to believe anything. Follow the money, they say, if you want to see what’s what. That said, most Evangelicals are generally appalled by sexual misconduct within their churches. There, in that harm, lie the feelings that can free you. Let’s hope that’s not the case. Downtown Baptist Church. Even if they didn’t publically go after giovanelli, it doesn’t mean they didn’t think he was guilty. The victim came forward 10 years after the assault and prosecutors moved forward with a 12-count indictment. Stacey Shiflett 5,717 views. Out of the hundreds of stories I have posted, only one of the allegations proved to be false. North Valley Baptist Church Served with a Cease and Desist Order By PastorMatt, in News, August 24, 2020. Why? There has been absolutely no proof provided, yet people are ready to hang him and totally ruin his name. Also as far as the law is concerned, it’s true that she can’t consent because of his position of authority over her, but the Maryland law states that in this case if she is 16 or older, it’s only 4th degree sexual misconduct with maximum punishment of 1 year in prison and $1000 fine. where is the news coverage there is only accusations for months now i don’t fall on either side of this becouse there has been no proof you can say he resigned yes he did however that was not an admission of guilt and we don’t know why it was done so i ask any updates. Brian, you don’t know Christ so you have no idea what you are talking about. Mind you, almost all the congregation did not know of the situation. Trieber about how the staff member who raped two teem age girls, impregnating one of them. Giovanelli also announced this year his role in opening North Florida Baptist College in the fall of 2020. The police probably should have handled it because it’s quite possible that he has hurt her chances of a criminal suit because he’s “gathered evidence” and blasted it over the internet. Cover-ups are all too common in both the IFB church movement and Evangelicalism as a whole. It’s kind of a lose-lose situation for them because they wanted to address the situation and not make it look like they were trying to cover it up (to me I really don’t think they are doing that since he doesn’t work there anymore and I think I read he’s been banned from coming to the church), but they can’t just say he’s guilty and all that on a nation stream when the courts haven’t proven that yet. Preacher Stacey Shiflett is trying very hard to raise the bar for the IFB bunch. Until 2017, the statute of limitations on child sexual abuse was age 25. Baptist News Chicago Magazine Christian Post christianity today Huffington Post star-telegram Texas Standard. I personally have gained a new respect for my pastor…. Does anyone know any updates. EVERY SUNDAY, COLLEGE STUDENTS HEAD OUT ON A TEAM OF BUSES to bring children, teens, and adults to church. The victim sued the church. You have destroyed Him. From vicious personal attacks to death threats, these fine Christians are more concerned with protecting the brand than doing what is right. Looks like Cameron had some stuff going on behind the scenes. One church I know of had a man who sexually assaulted teen boys twice. Rarely do they sexually assault one child and stop. I updated the post with this link. But, abusers don’t stop until they are made to stop. A couple things people should realize before bashing nvbcs statement is that they had to be very careful about how they worded their statement in order to avoid a potential lawsuit. IMHO, Bruce is right to say Christianity is a religion like any other. Isn’t he now at the new college he founded North Florida Baptist College ? Arrest, prosecution, and imprisonment do. Bible college is a prideful place and the root of pride is sin satan, Do you kiss your mom with that potty mouth? I’d hate to see bitterness from this consume her. North Valley Baptist Church of Santa Clara, California is your online home for good, old-fashioned, Baptist, Bible preaching. TIMELINE: When Will It Snow Again In Maryland? If a pastor leaves a church over some sin, and starts another church, the church he left doesnt have the authority to stop him from being a pastor if the new church wants him. He made it very clear that if such things happen at his church to a minor, it is immediately reported to law enforcement. “Hey, God has forgiven him and so should we.” The pastor and church board never gave a full accounting of the whats and whys of this man’s behavior and their culpability in the matter. So many years later? Lauren, I am happy to know that you have managed your ‘addiction’ but among non-believers what you have accomplished is replacing one excess with another. Again, in most states, the relationship, legally, could not have been consensual. Cameron Giovanelli, the president of Golden State Baptist College — an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) institution operated by Pastor Jack Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, stands accused of repeatedly sexually assaulting a church teenager when he was the pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Maryland. Keep your own life clean God is the real judge! Last year, Mr. Giovanelli’s moral character became more public than Jack Trieber could control and he had to terminate Mr. Giovanelli’s employment as President of Golden State Baptist College. He also expects more fines from the County. June 2018 | Annual Church Picnic at Southside Park. The courage it takes for a woman (or man) to publicly tell their story is amazing. The world was way different. Money won’t heal the wounds, but it sure as hell will make pastors and churches think twice before they bury criminal behavior or allow sexual predators to escape prosecution by moving on to new churches. You suffered harm by needing to become addicted and that happened because _______. You’re welcome. So they had to be careful about what they said. 227 Faculty & Staff. Cameron's present occupation Associate Pastor of Immanuel Baptist Church in Jacksonville FL . 095: Donna Wayles | A Christian Woman's Guide to Surviving Domestic Violence Show Details 51min 58s. Preacher Shiflett, I am sorry you have been harmed and I am grateful that you are willing to speak out. Giovanelli seem like a victim instead of the perp he is. He and Greg Neal are opening a college in Florida. I’m saved! Playing the “true Christianity is not a religion” won’t work here. The alleged incident didn’t take place there and it wasn’t even in the same state so it’s not their job to try and press charges. Let the police determine if there were other victims and what case they can bring against him. Just. Of course, the victim can turn to civil courts for satisfaction. That pastor trying to do his own investigation like that is almost like a random guy walking up on a murder scene and trying to investigate it for evidence before the police arrive. Shifflet took it down. Yes I have read the law and the worst case scenario for him would be 1 year of prison and a fine. (WJZ) — Cameron Giovanelli, a former Baptist preacher, was quiet and subdued as he entered guilty pleas to a fourth-degree sex offense and second-degree assault on Wednesday. The jerk is still there. Maryland Weather: Wind Chill In The Teens Friday, Wintry Mix In The Forecast For Saturday, 'We Need More Damn Vaccines': Maryland Gov. It’s not even the fact that he messed up! Criminal charges were filed last Thursday morning by Sarah Jackson. 5 comments. And I normally don’t comment on stuff like this, but I see a lot of people weighing in and bashing that church for what they should or shouldn’t have done and accusing of a cover up etc. Also I believe the statue of limitations of this crime said it was one year after offense occurred which would have ran out 11 years ago. Other names that Cameron uses includes Cameron S Giovanelli. Ask yourself the logical question, why is this coming out now? That’s the good news. I’m not saying that the evidence isn’t compelling or that she isn’t believed because I believe her, but that doesn’t mean that the church can publicakky convict or punish him outside of a court of law. So so sad. It’s the fact that he never fessed up or even just decided to step down because he didn’t feel right preaching anymore. Here's What You Can Do To Prevent It, $731.1M Powerball Jackpot Ticket Sold In Maryland Still Unclaimed. Monday, May 14 – Shiflett and deacons reached a unanimous decision that the victim was “credible.” They presented their findings to Pastor Jack Trieber at North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, CA where Giovanelli has been serving as president of Golden State Bible College. Quite refreshing to hear. The event was scheduled for January. Oh the number of times I heard that in 5 decades of ardent faith…’it makes me question if he was a true believer in the first place…’ He probably was as fervent as you were, but hypocrisy, preaching against something then doing it yourself is part of the broken system that x-tianity is. IFB preachers love “exposing” the pedophile scandal in the Catholic church. NVBC did what they could legally.

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